Can we mandate auto headlights already? Please?

"AMGtech - now with more recalls!" (amgtech) 03/10/2018 at 10:53 • Filed to: Idiots are EVERYWHERE

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Three vehicles in half as many minutes last night with no headlights, including a city bus!

This is not the one I saw, just pulled from the interwebs. Ours have much less white on them.

facw > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:00

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Sounds like a good idea to me. If that’s too pricey, I’d be fine with low-beams always on as well.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:01

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alternatively... just get rid of street lights... should solve the issue

(and according to at least one british politician from a few years ago... it would also make the streets safer... as no lights means no shadows for criminals to hide in)

Urambo Tauro > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:08

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Cheaper to just turn them on instead.

bhtooefr > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:13

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I’m for motorcycle rules.

You have three options: key off, low beam, or high beam. Everything else, nope, you don’t get control.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 03/10/2018 at 11:19

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Interesting idea. Although personally I hate driving through tree lined neighborhoods with no street lights when it’s raining. Which is basically my whole city 9 months out of the year.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Urambo Tauro 03/10/2018 at 11:20

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Yes, but that clearly doesn’t work because people are idiots and dashboard lights are stupid bright these days.

Textured Soy Protein > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:22

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Sometimes auto headlights fail to turn on when they should, like when there’s a bunch of precipitation but it’s not dark enough out to trigger them.

I do think all cars should have a “headlights are on” light on the dash so people can quickly look and see whether their lights are on regardless of what the backlighting is doing.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:22

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fair enough.. i wasnt entirely being serious

but everything being pitch black would definitely stop people from forgetting to turn on their lights (also growing up in the sticks im used to everything being pitch black.. so it wouldnt bother me much)

lone_liberal > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:23

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Then you get the people who don’t realize that they have to manually turn them on in the fog. Stupid finds a way to be stupid.

Urambo Tauro > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:26

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People are idiots. But I don’t accept that as an unavoidable standard that we have to put up with. They’re the ones that have to change, not us.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Textured Soy Protein 03/10/2018 at 11:27

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You’re right, but it’s still a better option than having them off in pitch black.

Don’t most cars, if not all, have a headlight on indicator? A green light symbol of some sort.

E90M3 > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:29

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If you make something idiot proof, someone will make a better idiot.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 03/10/2018 at 11:29

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Lol gotcha

Me too, but in the rain, with idiot pedestrians, and shit signage, in a city pitch black is much different. Most of our streets barely even have lines on them because the paint they use is so cheap, and they’re not even reflective.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > lone_liberal 03/10/2018 at 11:30

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Motorcycle rules then, always on.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Urambo Tauro 03/10/2018 at 11:33

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You can’t fix stupid

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > E90M3 03/10/2018 at 11:35

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David Tracy, Tavarish, or similar “I don’t need these auto lights! They just add unnecessary weight and complexity!”

Urambo Tauro > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:35

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I feel your frustration.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:35

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uhh... yeah.. with those conditions no lights might be a bad thing lol

stupid suicidal peds.... they ruin everything:p

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 03/10/2018 at 11:40

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Well the culture here promotes suicidal pedestrians. You could jump out into the middle of the busiest surface street here and all traffic would stop for you. And you’d be lucky to hear a horn. Homeless people do it all the time, pushing their shopping carts full of crap.

ranwhenparked > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:42

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Also, we should mandate replacing headlight bulbs when they burn out, there are way too many cars running around with one headlight.

Textured Soy Protein > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 11:50

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Lots of cars don’t have the headlight indicator. It’s handy but my BMW doesn’t have one. Well, there’s this pinhole sized little green light on the headlamp switch down to the side of the column but that’s pretty useless and hard to find while driving in daylight. Sometimes if it’s raining I want to make sure my lights are on. My halo DRLs are on all the time but I want the taillights to come on so people behind me can see me. I usually just try to squint and see if my gauges are lit up.

bhtooefr > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 12:01

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On my car, it’s way off to the side. Like, it’s literally closer to the passenger than the driver.

Also, in the past, the instrument cluster was itself the indicator. Nowadays, though, LCD clusters need backlighting, and even many non-LCD clusters are backlit.

Kiltedpadre > Textured Soy Protein 03/10/2018 at 12:40

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That’s one of the things I like with my car’s headlight system. It has the typical system where they come on when it gets dark, but they also automatically come on with my windshield wipers as well.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 12:58

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At this point, I’d be in favor of headlights defaulting on when the engine fires up.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 13:09

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I don’t understand why my base model 2002 S10 with crank windows, manual locks, and unpowered mirrors had auto headlights but brand new Hyundais and Toyotas don’t. Hell, the only reason my 2012 Golf has them is because a previous owner added the Euro auto headlight switch and control module.

Then there’s the cars that have them but allow you to switch them off, such as Fords. GM does it right where you can turn off your auto lights for the drive cycle, but next time you start the car they default to on and there’s no “off” position.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > ranwhenparked 03/10/2018 at 13:10

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I think a lot of people just don’t know. Maybe all cats should have bulb check units too!

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Textured Soy Protein 03/10/2018 at 13:11

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Yeah they should definitely be easier to see

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 03/10/2018 at 13:12

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If GM can do it reliably and cheaply, why can’t anyone else!?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 13:18

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I mean honestly, it can’t be that expensive to add to a car. A light sensor and a little module tapped into the headlight wiring that’s already there. I’d take that over some of the other tech crap they’re shoving into cars now.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 03/10/2018 at 13:25

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Same. I don’t care about any autonomous driving features, like blind spot etc.

Sam > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 03/10/2018 at 14:27

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My fully loaded, 1995 5-series (original MSRP $50k) does not have auto headlights, but my brother’s ‘99 Corolla (original MSRP $16k) does. I always drive with headlights tho, so it’s just a part of my startup routine every time I get in the car.

Sam > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 14:28

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But muh bulbs!

MINIGTI > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 03/10/2018 at 23:17

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Tail lights should also be hard wired on. So many people driving around in bad weather with DRLs only.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > MINIGTI 03/10/2018 at 23:39

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DRL’s aren’t sufficient for front lights at night though. So I think auto lights, or motorcycle rules.